AUDIO FOUND HEREIN FIRST POSTED UPON BAETYL FOURTH APRIL TWO-THOUSAND EIGHTEEN
THE FRAUDULENT CLAIMS MADE WITHIN THAT SUBTERRANEAN ANTECHAMBER UPON DATE TWENTY-FIFTH JANUARY TWO-THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AS SEEN UPON THAT ONE SCREEN SEEN AND SCENE ONE FLOOR ABOVE WHAT HATH BEEN FOUND BELOW TO BE HELL ON EARTH AND THEN SOME HATH INDEED PRECIPITATED PUBLICATION OF THE 34TH DAY T MINUS ZERO AND THEREFROM THAT REPEATED COURSE OF CONDUCT BY ONE OR MORE SO NAMED “COURT OFFICERS” HEARD HEREIN HATH BEEN FIRST PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC UPON BAETYL WITHIN THAT POST OF FIFTH MAY, THE 34TH DAY T MINUS ONE: HELL ON EARTH CONFIRMED AND THEN SOME.
HOLLY MUHAMMAD AWAN: “JUDGE GRANT RUNS NEW JERSEY”
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: “OH RLLY?”
HOLLY MUHAMMAD (HM): so what can I do for you?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so, I received two mailings from this department, I am not sentenced to probation
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: you made that clear last time
HM: mm hmm
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and you had scheduled something called a comprehensive enforcement program for the thirty..
HM: what’s your first name again?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: Adam
HM: Adam
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: for the 31st of this month
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: at I believe 8:30 am
HM: Adam C. Miller?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: ok, we did talk, or I don’t know if we talked, maybe I left a voicemail for you
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: I got your card
HM: no we talked
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: we talked
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: in person
HM: yea we did in December, ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so I have a variety of proceedings in municipal court that day
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so I’m not going to be able to make 8:30
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and I need you to reschedule that
HM: all-right
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: um and furthermore its perplexing to me, um, that document describes the docket number for a restraining order
HM: mm hmm
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and its called a case
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY VS. ADAM C MILLER
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: now that case is..that’s not a case name
HM: its terminology that the court uses for paperwork only, you’re not on probation
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: you don’t have a supervision CASE
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: your CASE is assigned to a probation officer, you don’t have a probation officer, but its assigned a probation officer to monitor collections of 50 dollars
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: correct, 52 dollars
HM: 52
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so…
HM: the 2 dollars is your transaction fee, unfortunately nothing we can do about that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so, why is the docket number for a temporary restraining order associated with a criminal case name, THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY VS. ADAM C MILLER?
HM: that I don’t know, you’d probably have to contact SUPERIOR COURT for that and find out why that terminology…
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: well it came from this department
HM: …is done that way
HM: it came from this department but we don’t make the rules
HM: JUDGE GRANT, [stated with tactical pause, subtle grin and body language of elation] who runs NEW JERSEY
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: oh really
HM: does not ask me what I’d like it to say, he tells me what its going to say, and that’s the end of that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so those notices do not come from this department, the text of them
HM: they don’t come out of this building
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: oh really
HM: the language doesn’t come from us we don’t decide any of it
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: you just hit the button and say print?
HM: no we don’t even do that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: hmm
HM: its an automated system
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: oh, ok
HM: the notices are generated from a location, I don’t know where, and they’re printed and sent out from there, my name is probably on your notice
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: because I’m the coordinator for this program
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: correct
HM: but if I go in and I put in my wrong phone extension
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: that’s what’s going on the notice
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: so when people call whatever name is on that notice, they’re relying on that information to be accurate
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: and right now it is, but it might not be in the future. A month ago it said Sally Fowler
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: now it says Holly Muhammad
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: where did she go again? [RE: SALLY FOWLER]
HM: she’s a hearing officer, she’s going to be handling PASSAIC COUNTY, MONMOUTH COUNTY and OCEAN COUNTY, I believe
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: a hearing officer?
HM: two south and one north, yea
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok, interesting
HM: um [pause and muted laugh] and she technically still works for the judiciary, but not as a probation officer anymore and not in a collections capacity, now she is in, you know, the next chair over, and she makes these recommendations for payment plans, vacating of penalties, fees, whatever, to a judge who then ultimately signs off on them, but she never has any contact with the judge unless there is an appeal
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok, duly noted, um, now the next question is, there’s been some ambiguity in the source of that fee, that 52 dollar fee, where exactly does that come from?
HM: a judge
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right, which judge?
HM: whatever judge is over the family part where you were for the restraining ord…, for the temporary restraining order
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: apparently at some point, and this is based on my knowledge of how court works, not because I was there, somebody filed a temporary restraining order
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: you were served or should have been served with that temporary restraining order, showed up for a final restraining order hearing
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: a hearing officer initially may have gone as far as a judge, but initially a hearing officer heard from either yourself and the other party or you didn’t show up and they only heard from the other party
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: determined that the temporary restraining order would be made a permanent restraining order
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: which in the STATE OF NEW JERSEY is permanent forever until that person comes back and says hey I want to drop the restraining order
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: now…
HM: then they dismiss…
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: …can you in tell in your system what type of restraining order that is
HM: no
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: the rea..I don’t have access to it, could someone in family court? absolutely, they could look it up
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: and see who the victim is, what the reliefs were that were granted, what reliefs were requested, and what reliefs were denied, I can’t and its appropriate I shouldn’t be able to see that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so what if I told you that no final restraining order had ever been granted
HM: then this shouldn’t be in the system
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct
HM: ok
HM: do you have something that says that?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: I do, but I don’t intend to share it
HM: that’s fine
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so, right now what I need you to do is move that date to another date because I have municipal court that morning
HM: ok
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: which supersedes whatever that, that notice, notifies me of
HM: that’s fine
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok, um, and you could provide me a print out of the new date?
HM: I can write it down for you, sure
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: sure
HM: let’s see what we have [pause] this is the first notice that you ever received for CEP, right?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: second
HM: second, I mean, court date, is this the second date that you received, or the second?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: this is the second date I have received, and is it a court date, or, what exactly is it?
HM: its a court date, you’re going to a hearing room for a court proceeding
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: why do you do that
HM: because you’re not in a courtroom
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: there is no judge in there, there is a hearing officer, and that hearing officer makes a recommendation to the court, to a judge
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: that says I had a conversation with this gentleman, I am recommending that going forward we deal with the 50 dollars that’s owed in this way, she signs it, you sign it, it goes to a judge and a judge signs it
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: then its a court order, coming from the “court” not the physical place, but the man with robe who was is called the “court”
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so that hearing officer that you said prior…
HM: in MERCER COUNTY is LISA LYNCH
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: in MERCER COUNTY is LISA LYNCH, ok
HM: she is the hearing officer that would be sitting in CEP at the time that you come in
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: she’s sitting there, I’m sitting there, there is a sheriff officer present and there is a court clerk to record the proceeding
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: when that is done, that paperwork, after you sign it, I sign it, the hearing officer signs it, it goes to JUDGE WARSHAW, who is the presiding judge in MERCER COUNTY who signs all of the CEP orders
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: um, he’ll review it, sign it, and then it comes back here for me to enter it into the computer and lets just say the recommendation or the agreement that you and Lisa work out is to pay 5 dollars a month from now until however long it takes to pay it effective such and such a date going forward, once I come back I change it in here, right now it says you just have to pay the 50 dollars period one payment
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: you make an arrangement with her to to do it some other kind of way and we change that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: um, if there is, if you showed up say January 31st, you come into court and you tell LISA I don’t want a hearing officer to hear this matter I want it to go straight to a judge
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: you do not have the hearing that day, she writes on the order that its being, its been requested for your case to go to the judge, it goes to JUDGE WARSHAW’S CHAMBERS, he decides, or maybe the law clerks decides, what the date and time of that hearing would be, and then that hearing happens in his courtroom, in his courtroom
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so are you saying I can request right now..
HM: you can’t request it with me, you’d have to request it at a CEP meeting
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so I have to show up to that
HM: mm hmm
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: and you’d have two opportunities to request it, the first one would be in the very beginning when she calls your case and you say I don’t want to discuss this case with you, you’re a hearing office, and that’s not disrespectful, its just I don’t want this heard by a hearing officer, I want it to go a judge, or after the back and forth with her you don’t agree with or you’re not satisfied with, at that point you can say, like, you know what, I’m not ok with this, I want it to go to a judge, thank you very much, I’ll take care of that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: is there a way to contact LISA LYNCH beforehand and get it straight to the judge
HM: there’s not, it has to be on the record that you’re requesting it, and the only way for it to be on the record is for you to be in the hearing room while we are on the record being recorded
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: um, because a judge gets that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and what, what judge, what part of the court is that from? Family part?
HM: The judge that would hear the appeal is a criminal court judge, who happens to be the criminal court presiding judge in MERCER COUNTY who handles CEP
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so it’s not in this building?
HM: no, its not. Its in the building that’s like a block that way on Warren Street
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: Right yes, 400, ok, um, so that day its the hearing officer, and stenographer, sheriff, and I can elect to take it to a criminal court
HM: mm hmm
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and then…what does that constitute?
HM: what do you mean
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: will I present evidence to say that this charge is in error?
HM: what you…no, that, if you were saying that the matter is in error, that would be on appeal for, for the fact that you have a case
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: what you would be going to JUDGE WARSHAW, going before him for, would be I didn’t agree with what happened in CEP, I want you to change that
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: he’s not determining whether or not that this 50 dollars should stand, he’s determining whether or not you should be having five dollar a month payment plan, or, if Lisa said, like if you said to her I’m not paying it I’m indigent I don’t have ability to pay it, he’s determining ability to pay, she could determine ability to pay, but if you disagree with her, then you would go to the judge and then he would determine it at which time you would bring…should bring that evidence with you before LISA, but if you chose not to…
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: but not the judge
HM: No, no, no, you would have, if you had it with LISA and she determined your ability to pay based on just you saying you don’t have the ability to pay, when you go before the judge, he’s not going to go with what you say
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: he’s going to go with what you bring him
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: mm hmm
HM: some people will bring that information to the hearing officer, and if its gets to be too cumbersome or its, you know, beyond her scope, then she’ll say you know what your matter should go to the judge
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: either one of you can make that determination in the proceeding while we’re on the record
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: now if I get the restraining order terminated or vacated before that CEP meeting, am I still required to go?
HM: …that…hmm, it would seem to me that you…if it becomes vacated and you have a court order, obviously, you’d bring that court order, say, say you do that on January 30th
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: but I still have to go?
HM: you bring that, you go to your matter on January 30th, get this vacated, you would, you would want to hurry up and bring it here so that we can take this out and then there’s no reason for you to be here on the 31st
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: otherwise we don’t have a way of knowing that some other proceeding occurred
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right
HM: …and vacated this
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that’s correct, uh, last question, the notices you sent me, the two so far, state “you have been sentenced to a term of probation,” umm
HM: …again its
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: I’ve not been sentenced to probation
HM: you have not, again its the language that’s generated
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so, could you remove that from the letter, because frankly its a little disturbing that it says that
HM: its a generated notice that’s…
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: so who actually sits there and writes the notice
HM: probably the administrative office of the court’s law division
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: and that would be where?
HM: Administrative office of courts, AOC is in the Hughes Justice Complex, I’m not sure which floor
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: oh I see
HM: but at the justice complex 25 Market Street
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: hmm, ok, very good, so that covers it and I’d appreciate if you could write the new date down
HM: Sure, I’ll pull out a date for you, when I was asking you if you’d gotten more than one date, um, January 31st, what other date did you have?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: um, for a date, I would prefer..
HM: no, no, no, I mean I’m trying to figure out what the date was prior to this so that I know how far to push this matter
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: the date that was scheduled in the notice I got was the 31st, I would appreciate it scheduled for some time after the 8th
HM: so February is fine, let’s see here, I do not have those notices around so I cant add you to that one, I don’t know that the 20th, I think the 28th is a juvenile date, I’m going to put this down for March 7th because I know that’s an adult calendar there aren’t juveniles on that date, um, its a Wednesday March 7th, it would still be for 8:45
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: Wednesday March 7th [pause] now frankly, um, given I have the notice for the 31st, I would need a print out saying that I have this court date on this date, so otherwise I have no proof, right?
HM: you have no proof of what? That you have a court date for the March 7th?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right, that I have one on the 7th instead of the 31st
HM: I’m getting ready to take you off of the 31st so when I print the calendar on the 30th, your name is not going to be on it because your name is not going to be on this list
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: well, I understand that, but I myself have no proof, so let’s say, you know, like the letter..
HM: you would like me to write something that says..
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: last time I came here, like you know, I had a print out from, you know, from the PROMIS system just saying your next date for the CEP is this
HM: um hmm [pause] and you said you were looking for something after February 8th?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: correct
[pause]
HM: summons notice is gonna go out with the March 7th date on it, it will say 8:45 or 1:30 because that entire day is an adult day
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: um, typically the computer determines which half go in the morning, which half go in the afternoon, I can put in a preference for morning, but its not guaranteed that I’d get it, I can’t print from here, I have to go to my own desk and print, so I will print this out this shows that I’ve transferred you from this calendar to this calendar
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: hmm ok, what you’ll get is a blue notice, peels open, and says your summoned to appear CEP, bla bla bla, March 7th, um, those notices go out four weeks prior to the hearing date, so the 7th is, let’s see what I got here, one, two, three, four…they will be generated on February the 5th and mailed out on February the 6th
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: ok
HM: hmm, excuse me, generated on February the 6th which is the Tuesday and mailed on February the 7th, um, you probably will not get a delinquency notice that says that you are past due, because that notice has already gone out when you were scheduled for January, so there will be one more notice that you will get for the summons, so I’m going to print this screen for you here, um, is this sufficient for what you’re looking for?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: right.
HM: that you had this date and you now have a new date?
ZERO ZERO SEVEN: that is sufficient, that is correct
HM: ok, I will print you that…not that this matters, but this contact type CEP calendar transfer, that’s system generated what they call it, if you want me to put anything else on there I’ll do that when I come right back, walk to the other side of this room, print-out, be right back, you don’t need to leave, stay right where you are
